tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post112868322739603200..comments2023-09-28T05:38:56.877-07:00Comments on THE FILIPINO MIND: WHAT WE NATIVE (Malay/Indio) FILIPINOS SHOULD KNOWBert M. Dronahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-72924084184447134652015-07-08T02:45:38.458-07:002015-07-08T02:45:38.458-07:00Obviously Filipinos can reacquire our honor being ...Obviously Filipinos can reacquire our honor being individual turn out to be an honest nation and help to get well manner community. <a href="http://www.numerologycentral.com/calculator/" rel="nofollow">found my life calling</a>Martin Sheenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161163587651952485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-46827325778578691772015-07-08T00:31:50.057-07:002015-07-08T00:31:50.057-07:00This is one of the most important blogs that I hav...This is one of the most important blogs that I have seen, keep it up!<a href="hulator/" rel="nofollow">httor/</a>Sheamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05158555199153000678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-83126252145344300112010-11-07T15:37:28.583-08:002010-11-07T15:37:28.583-08:00Horacio,
I do not know if this will reach you sin...Horacio,<br /><br />I do not know if this will reach you since you used a no-reply address instead of your own. <br /><br />YES you are free to take excerpts.Bert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-80916087707322011652010-10-31T12:16:20.667-07:002010-10-31T12:16:20.667-07:00Dear Sir Bert,
I have browsed your write up regar...Dear Sir Bert,<br /><br />I have browsed your write up regarding Filipino Nationalism and have a bird's eye view on the failure of attaining "Filipino Nationalism" one hundred percent. <br /><br />One aim of the present Philippine Government is to generate as many job opportunities here in our country, but most of the learned professionals are already employed abroad. This government program would perhaps succeed at a certain level by giving or implementing restrictions for our new professionals to go abroad to seek for greener pastures. In order for the program to succeed pay standards must also be raised in order to be competitive to that of the salaries abroad for a particular profession.<br /><br />My niece is to join an Oratorical Contest and the theme is " Nationalism Demands That Filipinos Strive To Be The Best" ie, in any profession a Filipino takes.<br /><br />I would like to request permission from you if it is possible to take excerpts from your write up. <br /><br />Thank you and more power to you.<br /><br />Respectfully yours,<br /><br />HoracioHoracio A. Frigillananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-64971959709922990482010-08-29T09:33:33.663-07:002010-08-29T09:33:33.663-07:00masaya akong nasumpungan ang site mo. marami akong...masaya akong nasumpungan ang site mo. marami akong gustong sabihin kapuri-puri pero sa susunod na lang dahil gabi na. Magpo-post ako bukasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-82387762983781500462010-08-25T20:18:30.600-07:002010-08-25T20:18:30.600-07:00Hello Ding,
Of course, I remember. I sent you you...Hello Ding,<br /><br />Of course, I remember. I sent you your pictures a few a weeks ago. I also remember your plans for Mabitac.<br /><br />Ideally discipline has to be internalized. During the Marcos Dictatorship, discipline/order were enforced and many supported him;but obviously, Marcos only used it to gain initial support for his grab for power (of course, with US support due to his Vietnam stance for his own profit -a mutually beneficial arrangement for US-foreign policy/interests). In the end, his ploy did not work becomes discipline was externally enforced and his regime exhibited the same abuses, lack of discipline and corruption.<br /><br />Our history of corruption is long. Given that majority are in poverty with all its negative consequences (with few exceptions) plus the absence of positive role models in the leadership/rulers, lack of discipline and corruption prevailed and will prevail. <br /><br />A drastic reform, I say bloody revolution is a necessary evil though not a guarantee for good. A revolution will only provide a window of opportunity for change. And we need a nationalist revolution, neither communist nor anticommunist. <br /><br />Easier said than done of course. I have discussed these topics in more details in my past postings.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />BertBert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-71242109169679506142010-08-23T19:28:05.722-07:002010-08-23T19:28:05.722-07:00I just want to simply comment about the discipline...I just want to simply comment about the discipline of the Filipino society in general pe N. Simon. Yes, Japan, Singapore, Australia, and Canada are probably the cleanest place I visited (if you stay away of China Town district, please no comment). This is not because of discipline but rather enforcement of the law. In Singapore if you throw away cigarette butts (they provide asthrays on the street) or spit out chewed gum and get caught, you will pay an arm and a leg. Who enforces law in the Philippines?<br /><br />Corruption in the Philippines. I have first hand experience in 1968 and lately a few years ago. I will tell you about the 1968 experience because this the lowest of the low. I was a young High School grad trying to get a Lisence to become a Security Guard. I know that I did not have enough money but then I have to give 50 cents so that the clerk will process my paper. That is only one stage of the process. I can't remember how many signatures I have to get. This is the time when only pay 10 cents for jeepney ride. The others I would not rather publish. <br /><br /><br />Bert remember me? Ding from Maryknoll Reunion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-70986598436201439682010-08-23T03:36:06.312-07:002010-08-23T03:36:06.312-07:00Hi Bert,
Thanks for the truth on our deep-rooted ...Hi Bert,<br /><br />Thanks for the truth on our deep-rooted problems as a country, people and individuals.<br />May we start to work in our own individual capacities and collective efforts towards a true Filipino nationalism. With the new leadership that we have now, I do hope, as a government staff, that we will be moving forward towards a better Philippines, better Filipinos and better individuals. It will be a long process but if we pool our dedication and commitment to achieve the nationalism objective we shall overcome and emerge victorious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-76326900358458969492010-06-26T00:05:56.533-07:002010-06-26T00:05:56.533-07:00Hi Tito,
I agree with your understanding of our s...Hi Tito,<br /><br />I agree with your understanding of our society. It is clear that education is a high priority; but that education must not be limited to establishing a career or providing vocational skills. We need also education for nationalism, which I have touched on in other postings.<br /><br />Thank you and regards,<br /><br />BertBert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-50814993561287874732010-06-26T00:00:50.359-07:002010-06-26T00:00:50.359-07:00Hi Hazelvee,
Thank you for your two feedbacks whi...Hi Hazelvee,<br /><br />Thank you for your two feedbacks which I truly appreciate.<br /><br />I do not know why you said you are an outcast; different maybe.<br /><br />It is true that enlightenment may lead to some loneliness; but it is only a phase/stage in the life of a "thinking mind" and will come to pass; you will surely come to know or meet people who are with similar outlook/open-minded. <br /><br />One of my thoughts decades ago --during my 20s-- was that "I flatter myself for being misunderstood." So do not feel bad; mature minds will understand and accept your being different.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />BertBert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-52725316095769279952010-06-25T17:32:30.263-07:002010-06-25T17:32:30.263-07:00Bert, I get it!..I truly get it!...Your message is...Bert, I get it!..I truly get it!...Your message is loud and clear. You purpose is not to demean nor degrade, but to free our people from archaic religious beliefs, traditions and superstitions..<br /><br />Cultures and organised religions are the prisons with invisible walls that is why those who are "locked up" since birth don't realise that they are imprisoned. Many, desire spiritual freedom. But who would want to leave their loved ones behind?..<br /><br />Enlightenment ( escape from the bondage of spirtual slavery ) is a very lonely road to travel. But the reward is spiritual freedom. It is awesome..Freedom is not for free, one actually needs to work very hard to free self.<br /><br />thanks,<br />hv.hazelveehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04554433965711222177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-48568196297899655702010-06-25T04:54:29.376-07:002010-06-25T04:54:29.376-07:00I am so pleased to come across your site.You artic...I am so pleased to come across your site.You articulated everything i think of about our culture.I grew up feeling very isolated especially from my own family because my thought process is different from the majority....<br /><br />I so get it!.Your purpose is not degrade but to FREE our people from archaic religious beliefs, traditions and superstitions and everything that caused division, discrimination, inequality, spiritual slavery, disharmony, disunity , corruption, stagnation and so on..<br /><br />For nearly 4 decades, i was very critical of everything...i stirred the pot, rock the boat, did not believe in praying for my daily bread...did not believe in hell and punishment...refused to feel guilty of the so called "original sin"....and passionately thought i could free my family members whom i love dearly from their addictive dysfunctional relationship with one another which is influenced by the culture. The culture is the prison with invisible walls. It is hard work and very painful to escape from it.It's even more painful to see them going about in circles in it. But I gave up now after almost 40 years.I am now an outcast...<br /><br />Enlightenment is a very lonely road to travel, but the Spiritual Freedom at the end of that lonely road is all worth it...*hv*hazelveehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04554433965711222177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-88997383379865717912010-04-08T00:40:03.604-07:002010-04-08T00:40:03.604-07:00It is common knowledge that corruption permeates t...It is common knowledge that corruption permeates throughout the country. From the politicians to the common people. The root and solution of the nation's myriad ills are embedded in corruption, its acceptance by the entire citizenry and its obvious resultant effect of lack of discipline by its people. Why is this so? As they say, the fish smells from the head. The country needs to change its corrupt political leaders or perhaps the supposedly democratic government system adopted from the U.S. simply is not effective in a nation where the majority of its citizens are below poverty level and uneducated. They have chronically been exploited by its leaders and most of them don't even know it. The spiritual and religious beliefs are strong in the Philippines but I think it's high time that the country strengthen education for all its citizens. So many are illiterates and their leaders have not even entertained the notion that it is their uppermost responsibility to educate them by offering free education up to High School as being done in most progressive and developed countries. By having an educated citizenry, the poor people will be elevated from poverty, the country would have better-skilled laborers, it would attract foreign investments, and the people would be better informed and would have the courage and conviction to elect highly-qualified and honest leaders (not just movie stars, celebrities and descendants of past leaders).<br /><br /> Tito FernandezUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515438999678115629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-1129469479758716392005-10-16T06:31:00.000-07:002005-10-16T06:31:00.000-07:00Helo Sir/madamPeace!!Wow! i like your articles its...Helo Sir/madam<BR/>Peace!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Wow! i like your articles its realy nice..<BR/><BR/>Allow me to just add something about a Filipino shoud<BR/>know.<BR/><BR/>I have been here in the Philippines for seven years<BR/>involving in youth and social work among the poor and<BR/>previliged. I realized that many of your people dont<BR/>have the sense of discipline and honesty. For instance<BR/>just simple things about followig the trafic role,<BR/>some drivers dont care..even the priest deny ordinary<BR/>people placing in front of their car " Priest on<BR/>duty"..so that police would let them pass violeting<BR/>roles that are meant for every citizen no matter what<BR/>class people your are. " there is No discipline"<BR/><BR/>Another simple thing about taking care of the<BR/>environment and even streets. Many people dont care to<BR/>keep the place clean after use. They live their trash<BR/>makig the place so dirty. "There no discipline" <BR/><BR/> Sir, if you come to Japan...Japan is a clean and<BR/>well disciplined country..we dont say alot thing but<BR/>we simple do what is right and for all people. Many<BR/>Filipinos come here look for job and they apprciate<BR/>our country because or government give them what they<BR/>need and they dont go back to the Philippines...<BR/><BR/>I hardly dont understand why there should be too much<BR/>difficult here in the Philippines...you are good<BR/>people ad christians as you are, you should be better<BR/>than us in discipline, honesty and even economically<BR/>and morally. It seems like Your God has given you too<BR/>much grace but you dont know how to use it correctly<BR/>for the wellfafe of the common good. <BR/><BR/>I agree with you.. The political sitution<BR/>today...there are something wrong with the leaders and<BR/>the people who have chosen the kind of leaders we<BR/>have. Whom are you blaming ? No one...Its just<BR/>reflects the kind of people you are..Many people lack<BR/>honesty and discipline in this country.. Many are very<BR/>good christians and very riligios but when it comes to<BR/>concritization of chrisitan values into actual<BR/>life....is not so visible...<BR/><BR/><BR/>thanks sirAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-1129136958437597052005-10-12T10:09:00.000-07:002005-10-12T10:09:00.000-07:00I have no quarrel with those beliefs of ages ago a...I have no quarrel with those beliefs of ages ago and surely their beliefs then opened their minds to their current realities. We can not judge them by our present milieu. <BR/><BR/>My opinions are those of today's so-called (Filipino)Christianity that still carry these cultural baggages that NOW are more of a detriment to present socio-economic progress.Bert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-1129126838131386382005-10-12T07:20:00.000-07:002005-10-12T07:20:00.000-07:00In the book "Pasyon and Revolution", Reynaldo Ilet...In the book "Pasyon and Revolution", Reynaldo Ileto investigates the beliefs of the "masses" of Filipino Christians. Their beliefs were a blend of orthodox Christian and indigenous spiritual beliefs. However, this "Folk Catholicism" was used to galvanize the masses into rebellion against the Spanish and American colonial governments, and even during Marcos' time. True, the official Catholic Church authorities usually represent the preservation of the unjust status quo. However, the "Folk Catholicism" of the masses is another story. Beliefs in anting-anting or other beliefs that are indigenous to these islands were often incorporated into the movements toward rebellion. Francisco Dagohoy of Bohol, for example, who led the longest rebellion during the Spanish colonial period, constructed his last name from "dagon" (word for "anting-anting" in the Cebuano language) and "hoyohoy" (gentle wind). Amulets have been used as a source of power during battle against the colonial authorities.<BR/><BR/>I guess some consider it to be make-believe or superstition that there would be spiritual power in such things as "anting-anting", but those honorable and brave men and women who fought against colonialism and the unjust socioeconomic order in this archipelago believed in it. And I honor them and respect their beliefs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-1129125359227072462005-10-12T06:55:00.000-07:002005-10-12T06:55:00.000-07:00Thanks for your response. At least I know one pers...Thanks for your response. At least I know one person read my posting.<BR/><BR/>I do not intend to demean (nor claim superiority in beliefs)though that is the usual reaction I get from fellow Filipinos. But if that is how I am interpreted, so be it. <BR/><BR/>I conceive of religion to have a positive function in the material betterment of society and I find that our Filipino variety of catholicism since 1521 or so have not worked as such, but was and still is, largely a reactionary social institution; Filipino Catholicism, as in Latin America, has demonstrated what has been tagged as "opium of the people" by Marx during the 19th century Europe.<BR/><BR/>If a religion contributes positively to the material betterment of the majority, it's good; if not but instead is a supporter of the status quo, actively or through indifference, it has to be removed or changed from within (if its followers start thinking and examining their beliefs).<BR/><BR/>European Catholicism and that in USA have greatly changed, if not rejected most Catholic teachings, especially after the Enlightenment and/or Vatican II and does not function as a reactionary insitution. <BR/><BR/>My right to speak against Filipino catholicism or any subject matter, to dissent/criticize,is a basic human right or see the UN Declaration of Human Rights (in my blogsite).<BR/><BR/>And one does not have to be nice especially on serious matters. Just honest.Bert M. Dronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06864941770380173324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11987503.post-1129122588273192852005-10-12T06:09:00.000-07:002005-10-12T06:09:00.000-07:00I disagree with your degradation of religious beli...I disagree with your degradation of religious beliefs of people within the Philippines as "superstitious" and "nonsense." Just because Filipino Christians don't practice Christianity according to your definition of what real Christians are, does not mean that you should degrade it. Christianity in the Philippines is known for being a blend of Christian and indigenous spiritual beliefs. This is how the indigenous people incorporated Spanish Catholicism into their own worldview. Just because you disagree with a few of these beliefs or practices does not mean that it is okay for you to degrade the entire belief system. <BR/><BR/>Prior to the arrival of Christianity, the inhabitants of these islands were "animists", for lack of a better term. Millions within the Philippines continue to practice this. Their conception of power and spiritual potency is highly different from yours, such as the belief in the power of amulets or special prayers. However, that does not give you the right to degrade them just because you believe in different things. Why is your conception of Christianity superior?<BR/><BR/>Because, by default, you are also degrading the spiritual beliefs of non-Christians in the Philippines, such as the various indigenous groups of the Cordillera or the lumads of Mindanao. Their belief systems include many practices/beliefs that reflect those practices of certain Christian Filipinos which you are demeaning as "superstitious" or "nonsense." <BR/><BR/>How would you feel if I told you that your act of praying to your God is "nonsense"? Or if I said that your belief in the spiritual power or message of Jesus is "superstitious"? Or if I said that believing in anything supernatural is also "nonsense"?<BR/><BR/>Those extra beliefs which are heterodox to mainstream or orthodox Christianity - or your definition of what real Christianity is - are still the special and personal beliefs of people. They should be respected as beliefs, just as people should respect your supernatural beliefs in the Christian God. Because there are those who consider all of Christianity itself to be "nonsense." That's not very nice of them, is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com